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		<title>Local Joomla Installations Are Not Worth The Effort</title>
		<description>Discuss Local Joomla Installations Are Not Worth The Effort</description>
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			<title>Cristina says:</title>
			<link>http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/local-installations-are-not-worth-the-effort/#comment-10459</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Steve I don't think we disagree, you should do the handholding for Joomla in particular, I mean that anything beyond Joomla they should investigate on their own and you can elude to elude to it (or even expand) so that they can become better web developers in general. If a user only knows Joomla, in the grand scheme of web development I think that does Joomla a disservice because at the end of the day Joomla sites are built poorly and insecurely and Joomla, the tool, takes the blame when it shouldn't. With regard to a local server, it's just simply not the case that it makes it harder to move the site, you're still just uploading the files and importing the db. It's an extra step, but well worth it when you think of the benefits of say just having an immediate back up among others. :) I've also never experienced any issues with htaccess or sef urls, in all my experiences on both Mac and WIN, htacess is not disabled. I did, however, have to work on an already existent site hosted on Godaddy, try using htaccess there, it's a great practice in the development of patience. ;) The other part of your statement about users not being able to do things they want to is pretty blanket so I can't respond. My point is users should also invest in a basic knowledge of how web development works and how Joomla fits in, but I've been accused of being an idealist more than once.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Cristina</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 19:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Steve Burge says:</title>
			<link>http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/local-installations-are-not-worth-the-effort/#comment-10458</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I think we've got a pretty difference of views on that one :) I make my living from hand-holding beginners until they're ready to stand on their own two feet. Beyond the complications mentioned above, localhosts make it harder to get help, harder to move a site live, harder to use .htaccess and good URLs, and harder to do almost anything a beginner wants to do.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Steve Burge</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Cristina says:</title>
			<link>http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/local-installations-are-not-worth-the-effort/#comment-10457</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Seems to me the simple solution would be to provide installation instructions for Joomla from a general perspective. Create db, upload, go to this url, follow the steps - that's the same anywhere, local or not. Then include an appendix that further discusses the benefits of using a local install and instructions for most widely used set ups. Edge cases will need to do more research or give up. We can't handhold beginners, we can only lead them to the water so to speak, they have to do their homework. Web development is much to vast a subject for handholding. Joomla is only one of many tools, they can use it as a gateway to expand their knowledge on broader web development subjects so that they can apply it to using with other tool like Drupal or WordPress.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Cristina</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Newbie says:</title>
			<link>http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/local-installations-are-not-worth-the-effort/#comment-9872</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I couldn't agree more! I thought joomla was hideously difficult--and then I had someone help me install xampp, etc. Joomla wasn't so bad after that! The explanations on the joomla site about how to get started are nearly impenetrable to the beginner.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Newbie</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 03:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Arjen says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[i really liked the idea of the local server. Because i don`t have internet acces all the time. Now i can work on the local site everywhere. My big question is (it should be easy but i can`t find a clear answer so far, so please help me out!) How can I syncronize my local site on my LAMP server with the one on the hosting server. After my site is already on the webserver, but i continue making changes on my local server. Is there a way to just opload the changes to the webserver?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Arjen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>abigscot says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi, I'm a real novice and was always afraid of doing a local install for all the reasons mentioned. However, I want to make major changes to my site and don't want to do it 'live' and experiment that way, and I want to be able to work on my site offline. So I bit the bullet, got out my joomla book and installed wamp... and it was simple! No problem at all! I was really surprised everything worked as well as it did. But of course there is always some issue, I thought the simple part of the process would be downloading a copy of the current site and uploading the new files but I can't get Joomlapack to work, or another extension I tried so I have to work around that. just my tuppence worth David]]></description>
			<dc:creator>abigscot</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ken Lyle says:</title>
			<link>http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/local-installations-are-not-worth-the-effort/#comment-8996</link>
			<description><![CDATA[One click installs and a real management environment where I can do Mass Upgrades reduces maintenance to a minimum. I can go into my billing system and provision a new virtual server with Joomla! in a minute. For the same reason I pay a hosting company rather than have my own server in a closet, I'd suggest beginners go with a hosted instance. Ken]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ken Lyle</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>dakruhm says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Aren't there major security concerns with local installs as well as hosted installs? In any event; designers (css), developers (php) and sysadmins (chmod, ssh) are all separate skill-sets. While all of them are inherently a part of Joomla, you'll find frustration anytime one attempts another. A Joomla beginner book is probably going to have all of these at some level but if 50 pages is too challenging, someone in the project team should have recognized it & found another way. Possibly team up with a hosting company that gives a free 6 month account when you buy the book.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>dakruhm</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>matthewlking says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[If a n00b cannot figure out how to run a Joomla install locally and then export it to a live site, then they have no business being in the industry. Harsh words, but there is nothing complex about it. Whats that n00b gonna do when his/her site gets compromised or some permissions need changed? If a local install blows your mind, it's time to spend some cash and hire somebody cause it's going to be a long and bumpy road for you.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>matthewlking</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Bobby Thanepohn says:</title>
			<link>http://www.alledia.com/blog/general-cms-issues/local-installations-are-not-worth-the-effort/#comment-8987</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think that the knowledge and experienced gained setting up and configuring a localhost is an absolute must for anyone that is remotely serious about choosing a career as a web developer/webmaster. Having a sandbox, a dev environment, a QA environment, and a live environment are standard fare in the business world and teaching aspiring keyboard jockeys best practices and helping them to understand that web development goes way beyond a one click install would benefit everyone. All too often I am called upon to fix business owner's websites that were poorly put together by individuals with a slick online storefront but lackluster skill set.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bobby Thanepohn</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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