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Optimising Joomla and Virtuemart for Google Base
Written by David Dawson   
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Google Base JoomlaThis is a guest blog post by David Dawson from Promo-Gifts (UK) Ltd

I have been working with google base on my promotional products website now for sometime. I've found a few different things that can greatly change the way that your products are viewed within Google Base. This is where you can upload products that are then show in Google's search results. Because Google shows them so frequently, this can be beneficial even if you only have a few products that you want to upload.

Components I've Used

Google Joomla Base

First off I used a product called Google Joomla Base. This was a commercial component that I tried several times to get to function correctly but only ever gave me a blank white screen.  Its difficult to speculate what the actual problem was and I never really got adequate support for my impatient demands. This has now been removed from the JED as its using a non-GPL license.

Red Mystic

Secondly I started to use Red Mystic, which seemed to solve a lot of problems that I was having. It took care of products up to around 10,000 items.  After that it seemed to cease to function.  I felt the downside was that you have to run a module on the front of the site with a link to the author. OK it's a great extension but I use lot of components and don't want dozens of irrelevant external links. Besides that I also don't want my competitors to know what software I am using.

CSVImproved

I knew originally when I first started using it that CSVImproved had a Google Base output facility but I felt it was a little cumbersome up until recently when there was a CRON facility added into the component.  This along with the Class A support from Roland make this the best choice for Google Base uploads.

Google Base Optimisation

Its difficult to optimise your products to Google Base until you have had a chance to see what actually performs. For our site we have over 100 categories of different products.  Each of the categories is generally the keywords that we are looking to hit on search terms.

E.g. Lanyards, Mousemats, Mugs etc etc - A lot of the products have elongated names such as:

W1A Square & B1A Round Clear Coaster or Sticky Smart Notes Ruler

Google Base With JoomlaI picked these 2 examples as they had 0 Impressions and 0 hits on Google Base. The names are clearly very long tail search terms with some not so useful letters and numbers. Some of the products that I noticed were performing far better than most of the products were the ones that had the main keyword names with an additional keyword such as: Personalised Flash Drives or Customised Mugs.

I set about building up new categories of products that were optimised to the main category keywords and one additional keyword to assure I was hitting the full search terms for each category/product.  You have to be careful with this as to not upset google with spam and ensure that each variation of the product has a different picture and different product descriptions.  This is quite easy with CSVImproved as you can edit everything in mass using excel.  Working with this build I have managed to increase my Google Base traffic ten fold.

Another important thing to note is the optimisation of each and every page that you have your product on.  You don't necessarily want to submit the same data to google base as you want to have on your website and this can cause problems when working within the limits of the virtuemart fields.  What I did in this case was add more fields to csvimproved that were submitted to Google Base and not used in the actual Virtuemart installation. This daunted me at first as I needed to add the fields using MySQL (Scream!)  it was actually quite easy when I got past my initial fear.  

Simply browse to the jos_csvivirtuemart_available_fields table and copy the format of the table you want to be different in google base. Eg I wanted a different description of the product in google base to what was on my site,  so I added product_desc_google to and placed it in the vm_product table. I also added product_price_google to the vm_product_price table as this is also something from a wholesale perspective that I needed to alter.

Optimising Joomla and Virtuemart for Google Base


This ability to have different information in google base to what is on your site can help you a lot with you product optimisation. I find that less is better on Google Base and you are more likely to hit your keywords if you include only them in the title of your product. Also I recommend trimming down your product description to be more optimised for each keyword you are trying to hit when uploading your products.

See below for examples that I would use, firstly on my website:

  • Title: Personalised Lanyards
  • Desc/Meta: Personalised Lanyards printed with your logos and design Hundreds of Options Available - Promotional Products from the No1 UK Supplier Promo-Gifts (UK) Ltd

Where as on Google I would trim this right down:

  • Title: Personalised Lanyards
  • Desc/Meta: Personalised Lanyards Printed with your Logo – Promo-Gifts (UK) Ltd – 0800 988 7355

Make sure you get your phone number in there somewhere as some people don't even click on the link!

I'll leave it there for now as I don't want to give away too many secrets,  lets just hope that not too many people read this and start stealing my keywords items!

 

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#1 James Friesen Mango Tree Media 2010-01-05 07:51
Interesting blog post. I've never used Google Base but after reading your post I will look into it. Thanks for sharing a small portion of your secret sauce. ;-)
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#2 Steve Burge 2010-01-05 07:54
Do you a quick search for most products and you'll get Google Base results now:

http://www.google.com/search?q=telescopes
http://www.google.com/search?&q=hd+tvs
http://www.google.com/search?&q=history+books
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#3 John Garrett 2010-01-05 11:26
This is an excellent post. Not sure when I'll get back into e-commerce, but I'll keep it bookmarked. Thanks, David!
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#4 Martin 2010-01-05 15:10
I had great success with the joomlagooglebas e feed but their website got hacked around christmas and still isn't up and running: http://www.joomlagooglebas e.com/. I did wonder what effect that the new release not using search engine friendly URL's has on SEO for sites using the feed. Any thoughts?
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#5 Martin 2010-01-05 22:30
Also what about Cubes SEF froogle feed. I was considering trying that. http://www.joomla-modules.com/vmchk/Downloadable-Modules/-Components/Cube-s-SEF-Froogle-Feed?flypage=0

Any good?
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#6 David Dawson 2010-01-06 02:15
@capewellmj I'm not saying joomlagooglebas e does not work. It just did not work for the volume of products that I needed to export. I did raise a ticket but it took a week to get a response and a further week to get action after my initial reply. In the end I gave up with it and tried Red Mystic, Which served all my needs very well until I got over 11k products.

Now I split the file down into 9 Separate XML files with around 1500 products on each, which is easy to do with CSVI.

I would take a look at the Cube SEF feed but its $29 and I am satisfied with a free copy of CSVI which more than serves my needs.
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#7 Martin 2010-01-07 09:35
I may try CSVI on a test site and have a play with it. It looks like it may be quite complicated though. Some great tips in your article by the way. Thanks.
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#8 Susan 2010-01-10 12:20
What a fantastic interesting article. I did find the Google Base Optimisation categories a little tricky but eventually got there in the end. Thanks - Susan
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#9 Sean Cook 2010-01-21 12:04
Thanks Steve! Didn't think about using CSVI in that way, thanks for sharing.
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#10 Phil BlueLlama 2010-02-10 08:05
Thanks David. Have a Jewellers who are keen to get their items seen on Google Products. This is a great start. I'm a little concerned on how much competition there will be for "18 carrot gold ring" but I suppose we are going to have to use some imagination with the description. Great post.
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