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Facts and Figures on the SEO Clubs First 6 Months
Written by Steve Burge   
AvatarJoomla SEO Club Wow - its been six months since we launched our Joomla SEO Club. Back then I promised that one day, when enough time had passed to provide reliable data, we would post a detailed overview of our experience. Today, is that day.

Some Background

Last year when Joomla made the decision to encourage Joomla developers to move towards the GPL license we posted a lot about the topic. For those of you not up on the GPL, essentially it asks developers to move away from locking customers into products with licensing and encoding. Instead the aim is to make money from providing support, documentation and custom coding to the software's users. In short, software as a service rather than software as a product.

Back then, I discussed the pros, cons and impact of a GPL business model. I also interviewed 5 people who were using the GPL: David Deutsch from AEC, Rob Clayburn from Fabrik, Andrew Eddie from the Joomla core team, Achim Fischer from Primezilla and Ryan Demmer from JCE. Those five people reflected my own thoughts. Between them they expressed enthusiasm, nervousness, optimism and pessimism. No-one had enough experience to know if it was possible for an individual developer or small webdesign team to pay the mortgage via a GPL business model.

About two months later, we decided to stop selling our Joomla SEO Book as a PDF download and change to a membership model where customers could also get consultation in our forum. We switched from selling a product to a service. Other SEO companies have made similar moves - SEOmoz before us, Aaron Wall and Brian Clark afterwards.

Thursday will be the six-month anniversary of our SEO Club. Did we make a wise decision?

Total Number of Members

Membership has grown at an steady pace. An organic growth rate is not to be sniffed at but nothing we've been able to do has created a significant growth spurt.

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Plans Chosen by Registering People

  • Free: 88%
  • Basic ($37): 7.8%
  • Medium ($99): 2.7%
  • Advanced ($250): 1.5%
  • Percent who renew: 68%

Total Number of Unique Visitors

Our daily visitor numbers continue to grow...

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But the rate of growth really hasn't changed compared to the 6 months before the club's launch

Total Number of New Visitors

Theres been no change when it comes to unique vs. returning visitors:

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Pages Per Visit

On average, visitors aren't browsing any more of the site than they did before:

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The Bad News

  • Overall, 0.1% of unique visits turned into members.
  • Averaging things out, it takes us a million unique visitors to produce 1000 members.
  • Our experience has been that many people had been reading the blog for months before deciding to become members. A much larger presell is needed.
  • I'm still a long way from being able to pay the mortgage via the club.

The Good News

  • PayPal chargebacks dropped from around 3% to 0%. Not one single chargeback since we started the club.
  • Aside from the chargebacks, informal evidence shows that our members are happier than the SEO book readers were. We get more people providing testimonials and more thank-you emails.
  • More members come to us for additional work. With the SEO Book, very few readers contacted us about custom work.
  • Our renewal rate is 68%. Quite a few of those who didn't renew wrote thank-you letters to explain that the were leaving because they've got what they needed from the book.

Open to More Questions

With the exception of the data removed from the images above, consider this an open thread. I'd be happy to answer any questions at all about our move to a service club business model.

Equally, I'd love to hear from you if you have or a considering a similar change.

 

Comments  

 
#1 David Towers 2008-04-15 15:15
I've been looking forward to seeing these figures since you announced that you'd be releasing them.

It makes an interesting read.

I guess the key question is how do you intend increasing your 0.1% conversion rate Steve?
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#2 Steve Burge 2008-04-15 15:38
Thanks David

I think I'd say:

1) Yes, we need to do better.
2) Its not quite our conversion rate. About 10% of our visitors come here for our Drupal vs Joomla comparison, another 10% just for our component downloads.
3) The GPL model really ain't easy.
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#3 Eddie Truman 2008-04-15 15:50
My experience has been;
I kept an eye on what you were doing after you switched to being a club.
There were enough links on the website that told me I needed to be a member to make me want to be a member.
I kept looking at your RSS feed via a reader (Netvibes) until I spotted a promotion that gave me a discount, then I signed up for the basic subscription.
I will renew, probably for the next level up, because there is no doubt that you provide value added information.
And finally, probably the most important decision I took on SEO and my Joomla sites was to use sh404SEF and the Joomla At Work patch because of articles I read here.
Congratulations Steve, the club is an invaluable tool.
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#4 Ulas ALKAN 2008-04-15 18:25
Hi Steve;

it was intresting to read your article. I have a recruitment component (
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#5 guido 2008-04-16 03:47
Sorry Ansiklopedi, may I throw my 0.02 cents telling you that a 1.5 native version would be better?
I know that it's more difficult to develop, but Joomla goes faster without legacy plugin...
at the same level sh404 is great, but apparently slows down every site I have put it into!
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#6 Joseph LeBlanc 2008-04-16 08:24
Thanks for sharing these trends. I've been doing a lot of thinking about software business models (especially within the Joomla! context). The Internet has definitely made Software as a Service possible. However, I don't think that customizations of GPL'ed software is SaaS unless you have some sort of recurring maintenance agreement in place. Customizations tend to fall more "bottom right" where revenue is high, but profits are limited: http://www.designvsdevelop.com/a-map-of-business-models-in-the-software-industry/
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#7 Steve Burge 2008-04-16 10:25
Thanks for the kind words, Gillian. I just tested the new version of sh404SEF on Virtuemart and all I can say is ... WOW! Having worked with so many bad shopping cart scripts, sh404SEF is really taking Virtuemart to another level.

Good luck with the component, Ansiklopedi. Do you think you'll sell it or offer subscriptions?

Hey Joseph - I definitely agree. The price and scarcity of talented coders does mean that margins can be pretty tight. It seems like a lot of the more ambitious companies are skipping the "Software as a Service" and moving to a "Software as a Hosted Service" with the ability to upsell with more higher-margin services. I wonder if the GPL model as envisioned by some of the Joomla team is inevitably a small-team, low-margin business model?
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#8 Barrie North 2008-04-18 07:47
"I wonder if the GPL model as envisioned by some of the Joomla team is inevitably a small-team, low-margin business model?"

Its interesting to consider Dries's recent moves towards SaS....

Regarding your stats, you should filter for language and then look at your goals... your current conversion estimate probably isn't strictly accurate....
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#9 Ulas ALKAN 2008-04-20 20:28
@steve: thanks for your kind words. i have finished the main functionality and i have a demo site. i did not choose the license yet but i think i will give free (GPL) or a subscriptions with a small fee.

if you have time , i can send the demo url to you.

regards
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#10 Daniel Chapman 2008-04-23 09:00
Nice to see things are generally positive Steve. I was going to put the full figures up for Ninjoomla at some point on a wiki as an example. We are running with a team of 8 right now, but all part time. We could probably afford to have 3 or 4 of us paying our mortgages if we really wanted to though. It's tough tough because even though we are a club there is a constant demand for output so it's like Joseph said. (reasonably) High revenue but low profit.
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