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10
2008
Does Siteground Control Mambos Website?
Written by Steve Burge   
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Mambo Logo Mambo has been dying a slow death since the split from Joomla. In fact, the last time I visited their site was when they were forking again!

Its sad to see a once-great project in such a state. Several links on the homepage are broken, only three users were in the forum compared to over 800 in the Joomla forums and the "Download Mambo" didn't work.

There are even paid links on their homepage. Scroll to the bottom of Mamboserver.com and you'll see "CYLON: Internet Marketing, Check out our Customers:" and underneath a list of links including "Phone Card | Used Cars | Geh?use Netzteil USB | Phone Cards | Business Web Hosting".

Even more shocking was that Siteground, whose antics we've covered here before, seem to have taken control of Mamboserver.com.

  • Siteground dominate the homepage. I know they need financial support but 4 of the 7 frontpage stories are advertisements for Siteground. Theres also an ad for FilesFrom.com, completely unrelated to Joomla, but run by Peter Lamont, former project leader.
  • Siteground dominate the hosting page. Spot the difference between the Mambo hosting page where Siteground (who sponsor the page) are ranked number one and the fake hosting review sites that Siteground puts up elsewhere.
  • Siteground domainate the templates page. Although dozens of companies produce templates, only one is allowed to put templates on mamboserver .... "Mambo Template section is managed and hosted by SiteGround web hosting provider".
  • Using Mamboserver for deep linking. Check the small menus throughout the site. On the templates page, theres a small menu called "Other Free Templates by SiteGround:" which provides links to Siteground's inside pages with beautiful anchor text: "phpNuke Themes", "Joomla Templates" etc. Its no wonder they rank #2 and #1 on Google for these terms.
  • Siteground hosts all the Mambo sites. If you look carefully, you will find a disclaimer page mentioning this.

Mamboserver.com may technically be controlled by the Mambo Foundation, but in reality its serving the interests of just one company.

Update: Its been pointed out to me that in Mambo's annual report for 2007, donations totalled $8,483.57 and hosting costs were also exactly $8,483.57. Given that some webhosts will spend more than that every day on Adwords, it sounds like a pretty good deal for Siteground.

 

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#1 Brian Teeman 2008-06-10 07:20
How do paid links on the homepage differ from googleads on joomla. IMHO they are far less obtrusive and in many cases they can generate the same if not greater income
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#2 Steve Burge 2008-06-10 07:28
Good question :-)

Cynical answer ... Google doesn't like paid links because they're not getting their cut.

Google's Official line ... the links aren't relevant to visitors. Phone Card and Used Cars on a Mambo site? They're just done for Page Rank.
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#3 Daniel Chapman 2008-06-10 07:37
mamboserver.com isn't the home of Mambo anymore.

mambo-foundation.org is.

I forget the details of why they left. I am sure others can fill in the details though. ;-)
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#4 Yannick Gaultier 2008-06-10 07:39
Hi Steve,

mamboserver.com is NOT the mambo official homepage. The forum is of course much slower than Joomla's, but still active. Mambo is managed by the Mambo foundation (I guess OSM's equivalent) at mambo-foundation.org/. They have the main site, the forum at forum.mambo-foundation.org/ and download site at www.source.mambo-foundation.org/. Minutes ago, I visited the forum and there was 171 guests on line. THere are about 20 000 registered users listed.
I understand the mamboserver.com domain was retained by ... previous owners of the mambo (c), and so the foundation had to move to their own, which seems to harm them a bit, judging by this post :-)
I guess the domain was then sold to siteground.
Rgds
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#5 Steve Burge 2008-06-10 07:55
Thanks Yannick and David

That makes my head spin.

I'm not suggesting Siteground own the domain ... just control it. "Mambo Communities" owns the site: http://whois.domaintools.com/mamboserver.com They're based in Melbourne.

Mambo-Foundation.org is controlled by Chad: http://whois.domaintools.com/mambo-foundation.org (whois.domaintools.com/mambo-foundation.org). He's based in Collingwood, which is ... a suburb in downtown Melbourne.

A quick check with Whois and Google Maps shows Chad and "Mambo Communities" are based just 3 miles apart.

No announcement on the homepage of either site about the move. Very confusing.
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#6 Spacemonkey 2008-06-10 11:39
Must.....Resist....Urge....

*spacemonkey slaps hand over mouth, runs away from laptop
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#7 Steve Burge 2008-06-10 11:41
Probably wise ;-)

I'm sure theres a lot of dirty laundry around all this, but overall I just felt sad looking at what the Mambo project has become. It really is a textbook example of the mistakes a FOSS project can make.
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#8 Barrie North 2008-06-12 15:51
At least Mambo have full transparency about heir budget. I hear about 60% of another CMS's revenue is undisclosed, and spent on who knows what.....
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#9 ILJ 2008-06-13 10:18
Mambo is SOON to be replaced by MiaCMS

http://miacms.org/ :-)
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#10 Cory Webb 2008-06-13 10:55
@ILJ... Mambo was replaced 2 1/2 years ago with a little CMS called Joomla.
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