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Home / General CMS Issues / Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You? Version 1 
Dec
05
2006
Joomla and Drupal - Which One is Right for You? Version 1

During the last few months, we've had a lot of clients who are have been after picking up on the buzz around CMS systems and Drupal and Joomla in particular. With the upcoming releases of Drupal 5.0 and Joomla 1.5, both systems are poised to make a big leap forward. However those launches may not happen for several months and many companies need to make a decision now, balancing the pros-and-cons of both solutions.

After talking and developing answers for several clients, we decided to put all we'd written into one document to help other people with this decision. Some disclaimers before we start:

  • This is not an Drupal vs Joomla discussion, but an open acknowledgement that each choice is appropriate for different sites. Sometimes we have to tell clients that neither will work for what they want.
  • This is not a comprehensive list. Please feel free to tell us what we've missed or where we are wrong. Add your own thoughts by post a comment.

Joomla and Drupal

 Drupal [-]Joomla [-]
Content Management
Very sophisticated. It allows unlimited category levels, tagging and categorization. You can also create multiple types of content, each with different features.

Weak. There are only three levels of content - Section >> Category >> Content is available. That's it. No cross-categorization. To get flexibility, use a Content Construction Kit extension.
WYSIWYG Editors
Probably the most common complaint about Drupal - it has no default editor.

TinyMCE comes by default.
Template / Themes
Very few commercial developers and off-the-shelf choices are very poor. Most designs are custom-made.

Perhaps Joomla's biggest strength. Joomla has a wide selection of free and commercial designs.
Community Features
By default it offers the ability to expand user profiles easily and Organic Groups allows for powerful community-building.

Non-existent by default but there are two powerful community extensions. Community Builder is free. Jomsocial is commercial but a powerful social application.
User Permissions
A huge strength of Drupal wins hands-down. You can create unlimited user levels and customize them in minute detail.

Perhaps Joomla's achilles heel. Most Joomla aites will only be able to use three user levels (Public, Registered and Special) without installing a cumbersome Access Control Level extension.
User Subscriptions
The only real option is Ubercart, a shopping cart which allows recurring billing.

Multiple options via extensions. CB Subs and are two of many.
Shopping Cart
See above. The only real option is Ubercart. Its a powerful, fully-featured ecommerce platform but may be overkill for small stores.

Joomla has only one major shopping cart: Virtuemart, but it considered buggy and difficult to work with.
SEO
The out-of-the-box URLs work well and can be improved with one easy addon: Pathauto. The code is generally lightweight and well-optimised.

Reasonable out of the box, but lacks the ability to really control URLs or metadata. Various SEO extensions are needed for those who really care about SEO.
Forums
A native and very smooth forum, but lacking in the high end features of the best modern forums.

The choice is between Agora and Kunena (native to Joomla but short on features) versus RokBrige (a bridge to phpBB3) and JFusion (a bridge to almost any forum software).
Multimedia
Not by default but several multimedia modules for video and podcasting are available.

Yes, the default WYSIWYG editor allows video and there are plenty of podcast and video extensions.
Photo Galleries
Definitely less options than Joomla. Decent galleries require several modules to be combined.

Yes. there's over a dozen excellent galleries.
Event Calendars
Not great. There are options but they are far behind those available for Joomla.

Yes, multiple native and high-quality calendar extensions.
Document Management
Would need to be constructed from other modules.

DocMan and Rokdownloads are both reliable document managers.
Blogs
Good default capabilities, although not a natural blog in the manner of Wordpress.

Some out-of-the-box capability (we use Joomla for our blog here on Alledia). Good native blogging extensions plus a port of Wordpress are available.
Internationalization
Yes, Excellent.

Not by default. Joom!Fish allows for sites in multiple languages but isn't as powerful as the commercial Nooku.
Standards Compliance
Yes. Excellent out-of-the-box.

Not great. The Beez template does provide clean output but most Joomla installations still use a good number of tables. One company has produced a full set of table-less overrides.
Multisites Management
Yes, out-of-the-box.

Weak. There are some multisite options but they're either unstable or very expensive.
Commercial Community
Drupal's commercial talent pool is very high-quality but also very shallow. Most commercial developers work with large-to-medium size business and charge accordingly.

Very strong. Perhaps the best in the Open Source CMS world with a wealth of developers, designers and consultants.
General Community
Good community. Often more non-profit than business driven. Excellent forum support at Drupal.org.

The community as a whole has a tendency to argue and fragment but its also highly dynamic with 1000s of companies offering support and services.
Ease-of-use
Definitely a weakness. Terms are confusing and overly-geeky. The admin interface is text-driven and often overwhelming to beginners.

Joomla has a very good graphical interface but still retains quite a few quirks and oddities.
Documentation
Not too bad. (Click here for documentation and here for an API reference guide

Pretty good. The main Joomla wiki has a lot of highly-detailed pages but also some with very little information.
Learning CurveSteeper than Joomla. Drupal's strength is in its flexibility and power, not its ease-of-use.Shallow. One of the easiest CMS systems to learn and customize.
Current SituationClear development path. Currently working on Drupal 7. Joomla 1.5 is the current version with the possibility of two new versions (1.6 and 1.7) due next year. Roadmap is not always clear.
OverallDrupal is flexible and developer-friendly. It also benefits from a coherent and stable community led by several large and reputable companies.Joomla 1.6 will focus on improving two crucial areas: Joomla's inflexible systems for managing users and content. It may become a little more complicated as a result, but it will remain relatively easy to produce a good-looking site with plenty of functionality using Joomla.

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Your Comments (155)

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Jeff Eaton
December 05, 2006

Drupal assumes one template for all pages, although this can be adapted with effort. Developing your own is the best bet.

This is no longer true in Drupal 5; the 'page.tpl.php' file is used by default, but any number of additional templates can be dropped in and used based on the current url path that's being displayed. For example, if a 'page-front.tpl.php' file is present, it will be used for the front page. If 'page-photos.tpl.php' is present, it will be used on pages whose urls begin with www.example.com/photos... and so on.

More complex techniques can be used if a site needs to use different templates based on critiera other than the current URL path, but this can cover quite a bit of ground. Other than that, an excellent overview. I'm very interested in seeing how Joomla 1.5 changes the landscape.

steve
Steve Burge
December 06, 2006

Thanks Jeff - large parts of this chart will need to be rewritten when Drupal 5.0 and Joomla 1.5 see the light of day in stable form.

The multiple tpl.php solution is interesting - not quite as elegant as Joomla's, but still a step forward.

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Lyle Mantooth
December 06, 2006

Just wanted to say "thanks" for the bercart compliment. We'll try to live up to expectations.

steve
Steve Burge
December 06, 2006

Hi Lyle - Ubercart is an exciting development as ECommerce is such a big stumbling block for many companies considering Drupal.

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Greg Battey
December 06, 2006

Nice summary but your "ex core" dev you quote has never been a core dev of Joomla and he's a commercial developer selling all sorts of components. Yes, he's warned people that his 3PDs may/will break. 1.5 is a break, so I guess it's a fair thing to say but no doubt by saying it, it's a way to generate interest in future sales and migration services. When was the last time he released something decent as GPL?

steve
Steve Burge
December 06, 2006

Thanks Greg - change made. 1.5 versus 1.0.12 is a question we all face with new sites at the moment. Not an easy decision to make and dependent really on the speed with which clients want to launch.

CoryWebb
Cory Webb
December 06, 2006

Standards Compliance is a non-issue in Joomla! 1.5. The template designer has complete control over the HTML that is output from core extensions. If you want to have standards-compliant XHTML and CSS, you can simply override the default layouts from the core extensions.

Thanks for the comparison. It's nice to see it in such an organized format.

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Amy Stephen
December 06, 2006

I was very surprised by the size difference.

To be honest, I thought you were generous with Joomla! in terms of blogging capability. I agree with the link to Barrie's resources - he's doing blogging best and, as is his style, has documented and shared helpful information in that area. JoomlaShack is working on Vanilla integration with Joomla and that is going to be sweet.

I also think the Joomla! forums are fantastic with beginning users and could have been listed.

All in all, that is a very good comparison and much appreciated. Thanks!

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Brian Gibson
January 06, 2007

What do you mean by "cross-categorization"? Does this mean that an article cannot show up in a wide range of categories? For example, if I want an article to appear in Category 1, Category 3, and Category 25, am I out of luck with Joomla? Is there a work-around?

Also, can you tell me some good sites to see community builder being used live?

Thanks,
Brian

steve
Steve Burge
January 06, 2007

You're right. If I had an article about the England football team or the new Tom Cruise movie I could put those articles into both "England" and "football" categories and also into the "Tom Cruise" and "movies".

Yep - Joomla does not have this feature.

Design4Joomla's Magazine component and the various Tags components available are OK but they don't do a great job.

Community Builder:

Joomlapolis.com
BleacherReport.com
BuzzAroundBooks.com

There are plenty more that people on the various Joomla forums can point out to you.. Its a useful and flexible component.

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Pete
January 07, 2007

Just wanted to say nice list as well as add my 2 cents smilies/smiley.gif

I've worked with mambo for my main website for about a year before switching to drupal. Reason for the move was mambo was full of SEO issues (duplicate content galore, url's were unstable and would change) and i need to fix that so i went for drupal.

So while drupal does have a steeper learning curve, mambo (i tried joomla when they just split, still didnt like it) had way too many problems with safe mode (havent had one with drupal yet) and i love using tags to categorize things.

In conclusion if you want ease of use and you want to use some premade template get mambo, if you want something that ranks well in the search engines without any headaches go drupal, if you just want a blog go wordpress but if you want a bit more customizability than wordpress, you cant go past drupal imho smilies/smiley.gif

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amarnath
January 08, 2007

Very useful comparison!

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drupal user
January 22, 2007

this was just what i was looking for

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Toni
January 25, 2007

Now that Drupal 5 is out can we have an updated comparison :-)

Also was wondering why so many commercial possibilities for joomla vis a vis drupal.
I myself was looking for commercial templates for drupal but found it difficult.

Thanks again for the blow by blow account.

Cheers

Toni

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Justin
January 29, 2007

First I got to say this is a very nice comparison, very comprehensive and very far.

I am a big drupal fan. I cant say much for Joomla as the last time I tried it was just after the split and I did not like it.

I am a PHP/mySQL developer, and maybe that is why I like drupal so much. Some comments were made about commercial support for drupal in the way of Templates and modules. I got to say I like that almost 100% of what is available is opensource and if you need something custom made then yes you will need to find a person that knows drupal, and yes maybe that is a challenge. The basics any designer can do, it just takes a hour or 2 reading about how it all works.

I found when I looked at Joomla that it was a little to commercial. Many great templates I had to pay for, in drupal you will be hard pressed to find places to buy a template.

Also I don't agree with hit drupal got for Template / Themes. I think drupal is very flexible when it comes to themes.

If you take the time to learn how durpal works you can do almost anything. Just take a look some of these sites. Some are good looking designs and some are high profile sites.

http://mtv.co.uk/
http://www.projectopus.com/
http://ourmedia.org/
http://www.theonion.com/content/
http://evolt.org/evolt_3.0
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/
http://haiku-os.org/
http://www.terminus1525.ca/index.php?l=en
http://www.cialog.com/
http://www.liquidx.net/
http://savannahnow.com/

You can find many more great sites here http://drupalsites.net/

If you take a look at these links you will see that almost daily new themes and modules are being contributed.
Themes http://drupal.org/taxonomy/term/15
Modules http://drupal.org/taxonomy/term/14

If you looking for some videos or podcast take a look at these
http://www.lullabot.com/podcast
http://drupal.org/node/112348

Maybe when Joomla 1.5 comes out I will take another look at it again and maybe I will change my view on joomla. I have been hearing a lot good things about 1.5, but for now I am drupal fan.

Maybe a Joomla fan can post some links to some good joomla sites. Sites that show off some of joomla's themeing abilities.

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drupaldesigns.com
February 03, 2007

We left Joomla long time ago and have been powering Drupal sites since months

Here are some other Drupal Sites out there we like :
http://drupaldesigns.com/blog/roshan/some-drupal-powered-sites-i-like
Roshan Shah
http://www.bpocanada.com
- Love Drupal, Go Drupal

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JohnPaul
February 06, 2007

Nice, honest and neutral comparison...
I very much like the way it's presented and agree on more than 90%.

But after experimenting both systems quite extensively, I have to say that theming (or templating) on Drupal's side far superior and remains accessible to even more intermediate designers unlike Joomla's.

For more of my impressions about the two systems, there is another post that can be found here at Casey's place:
http://www.hornswaggled.com/?p=55#comments

Very best.
JohnPaul

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Ted
March 17, 2007

Another good example of what Drupal is capable of is http://www.dcguide.com (take a look at the integration of virtual tours).

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Maqbool
March 22, 2007

Nice comparison,
But i just want to know that are u people sure that joomla has no multisite management capability. Because i have seen some extensions on http://extensions.joomla.org/i...&Itemid=35
like Joomla Multisites Component For Joomla 1.0.11 or JoomMSites which are under GNU/GPL licence.

Best regards

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Mike Thomas
April 04, 2007

I'm actually the person who owns www.DCguide.com , referenced above. I just want to state that I started the site using Joomla as my CMS, but Joomla wouldn't allow me to build my site as easily as drupal would, so I changed over to Drupal. Let's just say I'm much happier with Drupal.

steve
Steve Burge
April 04, 2007

Thanks Mike - what advantages did you find with Drupal?

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Curious
May 23, 2007

When do you use a content management system like Drupal or Joomla and when do you use an MVC framework like Ruby on Rails, Code Igniter, or Django?

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themegarden.org
June 04, 2007

Even the inventor of the HTML ? Tim Berners Lee ? uses Drupal for his
personal Blog (http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/blog/4)

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Robert
June 06, 2007

My compliments to the great comparison given here and the numerous honest comments posted.

Does anyone here have first hand experience with Plone? Unlike Joomla and Drupal it is written in Python.

"Plone is the most robust and proven application, with implementations in major institutions and organizations world wide. It offers powerful functionality and customization features, while still providing strong ease-of-use so that
non-technical staff can be easily trained in how to update content once the site has been setup. Like Drupal, it provides standards-compliant, accessible pages out of the box, and strong support for administrative workflow."
Full article found here: http://www.idealware.org/artic..._plone.php
Also in the same article you will find a good high level comparison of Joomla and Drupal.

It would be nice if Jeff's comparison table could be updated and extended to include Plone to have a comprehensive side by side comparison of all 3 CMSs?

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Nitin
June 14, 2007

Its simply great to see support for Drupal, I was torn between this choice of Drupal Vs Joomla in case you wish to read, but this article is definitely one of the most comprehensive comparison work done. The two features i really appreciated as documented here are

1) Search Engine Friendly URLs
2) Multiple Sites with One Installation

I believe they just add a provide a upper hand to Drupal in a lot many ways. Anyways thanks for this extensive article.

Another thing that is really useful I found here was mention of VbDrupal forum, I really felt that drupal left the high end features provided by most drupal forums.

I think one more feature to compare out here is first time installation for each of them. I had been reading regularly that drupal has a tougher installation but I installed Drupal 5.0 and it did not took more than a few minutes to do that. It may be another useful comparison to add to this table especially for newbies.

I have been documenting my findings at drupal vs joomla . Anyways, once again a lot of thanks for this table, it was simply a great tool to make a choice.

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matthew
July 31, 2007

The only reason i dont like drupal is because there are not many themes that you can choose from

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Mike Gifford
August 11, 2007

Nice comparison. Like the table format. We were looking at comparing Drupal, Joomla & Wordpress for one of our clients. Their main concerns were (1) multilingual capabilities (also called internationalization or i18n); (2) end-user usability; and (3) developer usability.

As a national organization in Canada, being bilingual was a must. Check out http://openconcept.ca/blog/eche/ content_management_system_cms_report_on_alternatives_to
_back_end

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Victoria Clare
September 12, 2007

I was a bit surprised to see this conclusion (about document management). I made a Drupal intranet for a distributed company last year that was all about the document management, and there were several options available for this then.

Now I'm looking at a similar new project and was thinking Joomla might make for a faster setup, but I've just been looking at the new Drupal Web File Manager and Asset modules, and I think I'm going to stick with Drupal because these modules look good, and the user management is so much more flexible.

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Johnathan Prine
September 27, 2007

Hi Steve -

Found this comparison very useful, thank you. Wanted to see when/where the updates to the table tapered off. Lots of good comments above.

JP

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Walter Hutsky
October 24, 2007

Has anyone ever used Xoops? I love it and it has many useful features.

goodwebpractices
David Towers
October 24, 2007

Can't say that I've even heard of Xoops sorry Walter! smilies/shocked.gif

dhana_space1
Joomla Web Developer
October 27, 2007

HI,

I have this doubts,
Is it easy to install Drupal Template ?
Compared to joomla is it easy ?

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MAtej
November 23, 2007

Excelent comparison and you even suggested and compared add-ons.
Thank you for this post.

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Prabin Dhakal
December 10, 2007

I use joomla in many sites, but I find it harder when I need to set the user permissions and content management. I think I should consider drupal after reading this. Also, I find exponent very easy for giving permissions and content management, but this too lacks some major features.

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Kate Lawrence
January 09, 2008

I use joomla on many of my clients sites however I find it is often over complicated and lacks smoothness in function as well as the cross categorisation. I have just installed drupal on a test directory and I am seriously considering using it IF I find the themeing easier.

Joomla has its place and is indeed a beauty of a CMS but it is toooooo complicated for many small sites.

Thanks for this comparison it has asked plenty of my queries and I will come back to this page regularly and take a look at it...

*applause*

Kaety

Zorro
Klaus Nitsche
January 09, 2008

Hi Kate,

Drupal has quite a few advantages compared to Joomla, however I'd say it is more developer-oriented than consumer-oriented. It might come down to what your definition of "complicated" is.

Theming, to me, is not easier than in Joomla. Look around and see if you can find an adequate number of high-quality Drupal templates on the net: You won't be very successful. I guess that says something about easiness of templating in Drupal.

Kind regards,
Zorro

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Sumit Tuladhar
January 20, 2008

Hello I liked the article, can you update it with the latest release
thank you

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Mimosa
January 27, 2008

Thanks for the comparision table, good once but need update.

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ak4life
January 29, 2008

Fair and Balanced (TM)! Very nicely done!

Would love to see an updated comparison now that Joomla 1.5 stable is out. I just started messing around with Drupal (again). I had tested the major open source CMS offerings a couple of years ago and went with Joomla given the greater number of third party components available for it. Now that that Joomla 1.5 forces use of a 75K Javasript file (just search for 'mootools.js' on forums.joomla.org), I'm looking at Drupal again. Looks like 5.6 will do just fine for my personal photo site and for my business site, too.

I'd love to see a performance comparison between a typical Joomla and Drupal installs. Here's a really crude comparison between a default install of Joomla 1.5 stable and Drupal 5.6:

=======================================
Joomla 1.5 Stable
out-of-the box install, default theme,
including sample data
---------------------------------------
Total Results
Total HTTP Requests:56
Total Size: 62052 bytes
Total Time: 7.194098 seconds
Object Totals
TypeNumberSize(bytes)Time (secs)
HTML164747.194098
Images47291715.655476
Css651950.696177
Scripts2212120.355785

=======================================
Joomla 1.5 Stable
out-of-the box install, default theme,
no sample data
---------------------------------------
Total Results
Total HTTP Requests:50
Total Size: 53125 bytes
Total Time: 6.369191 seconds
Object Totals
TypeNumberSize(bytes)Time (secs)
HTML113216.369191
Images41253974.963849
Css651950.700339
Scripts2212120.357904

=======================================
Drupal 5.6
out-of-the box install, default theme
including sample data
---------------------------------------
Total Results
Total HTTP Requests:2
Total Size: 2419 bytes
Total Time: 0.469153 seconds
Object Totals
TypeNumberSize(bytes)Time (secs)
HTML117910.469153
Images16280.116186
Css000
Scripts000

=======================================
Drupal 5.6
out-of-the box install, Abergreen theme
including sample data
---------------------------------------
Total HTTP Requests:3
Total Size: 2760 bytes
Total Time: 0.576629 seconds
Object Totals
TypeNumberSize(bytes)Time (secs)
HTML118510.576629
Images16290.115769
Css12800.115917
Scripts000

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ak4life
January 29, 2008

Interestingly, doing the same comparison using http://www.websiteoptimization...s/analyze, produced different results..

Joomla 1.5 stable, default theme, no sample data:

Global Statistics
Total HTTP Requests:9
Total Size:96161 bytes

External Objects
External ObjectQTY
Total HTML:1
Total HTML Images:0
Total CSS Images:0
Total Images:0
Total Scripts:2
Total CSS imports:6
Total Frames:0
Total Iframes:0

Page Objects
QTYSIZE#TYPEURL
1 74404 SCRIPT /15stable/media/system/js/mootools.js
1 13240 CSS /15stable/templates/rhuk_milkyway/css/template.css
1 2233 CSS /15stable/templates/system/css/general.css
1 1837 SCRIPT /15stable/media/system/js/caption.js
1 1391 CSS /15stable/templates/system/css/system.css
1 1319 HTML /15stable/
1 730 CSS /15stable/templates/rhuk_milkyway/css/blue_bg.css
1 723 CSS /15stable/templates/rhuk_milkyway/css/blue.css
1 284 CSS /15stable/templates/rhuk_milkyway/css/ieonly.css
9 ^ 96161* Total (^unique objects)



Drupal 5.6, default theme, with sample data:

Global Statistics
Total HTTP Requests:9
Total Size:35839 bytes

External Objects
External ObjectQTY
Total HTML:1
Total HTML Images:1
Total CSS Images:0
Total Images:1
Total Scripts:0
Total CSS imports:7
Total Frames:0
Total Iframes:0

QTYSIZE#TYPEURL
1 16778 CSS /drupal56/themes/garland/style.css
1 6932 CSS /drupal56/modules/system/system.css
1 5399 IMG /drupal56/themes/garland/logo.png
1 1789 HTML /drupal56/
1 1412 CSS /drupal56/themes/garland/fix-ie.css
1 1256 CSS /drupal56/themes/garland/print.css
1 858 CSS /drupal56/modules/user/user.css
1 737 CSS /drupal56/modules/system/defaults.css
1 678 CSS /drupal56/modules/node/node.css
9 ^ 35839* Total (^unique objects)

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RonOsmena
February 01, 2008

wow very informative information we have here and it started almost 3 years ago with the version, and yes Joomla has its new 1.5 Stable and Drupal should have a new updated release as well, I hope someone could come up with the same comparison on the first post with the all new updated versions.

Thanks!

"applause" to all contributors!

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Whirled
February 18, 2008

Hi,

I liked the comparison. It was very helpful.

I am currently looking into Joomla vs. Drupal as a base for developing a site for allowing customers to order custom printed products, such as business cards. Neither Joomla or Drupal seems to offer a cart/e-commerce module that does everything I need it to do (obviously), so I will need to do some custom developing myself.

From what I have found, Drupal seems to offer a better API and code structure to allow easier customization and module creation, whereas Joomla is more complicated due to code/html being mixed. This is said to have changed with Joomla 1.5, but there seems to be such little documentation on the matter.

Can anyone with experience in development of modules/extensions give some insight into the ease of developing those extensions with either CMS?

Also, I have not looked into Drupal's multisite features, but can tell you that Joomla's GPL multisite extensions are not very adequate, in my opinion. One thing I really dislike about Joomla is the fact that there are so many commercial solutions provided, and therefore have not looked into the commercial multisite extensions available. If anyone has any more information about the multisite features of either CMS, that would be great.

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Daniel R
February 22, 2008

Thanks for your article. I'm evaluating the two frameworks right now and it looks like your conclusions are right. However, these two frameworks keep advancing and your article is from about a year ago. I'm going with Joomla for now, later I'll report my findings smilies/wink.gif

Daniel
www.DVDs4theSAT.com
The best SAT preparation course now has a rewind button

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Motin
February 26, 2008

This table made me choose Joomla back in the days, mainly because I valued getting something out that looked good quickly - Now I know that Drupal would have suited me much better.

Let's look at this part of the table:

Drupal is more community-oriented and the current live version is more extensible. That advantage will be greatly shortened once Joomla 1.5 is stable.


When Joomla 1.5 came out stable, Drupal har jumped two major versions and is in 6.0 - I don't feel that any advantage has been greatly shortened...

In general: If you are going for a professional site that is expected to be customized now and then for more than a couple of months I really recommend you to spend some extra days and learn Drupal. You will be able to do soo much more in much lesser time in the end.

Two comments about Joomla vs Drupal that I really agree about:
http://cmsreport.com/node/543#comment-2519
http://drupal.org/node/101507#comment-640449

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Ian Douglas
March 19, 2008

My main problem with Drupal is the themes available. 99%, so far as I've seen, are just awful. Joomla has much better themes available, and many more companies that provide professional themes for very low prices. With Drupal, you can pay $500-$1000 for a professional theme, even if you can find someone capable of providing you one. Aesthetically, Drupal has major problems.

If anyone disagrees, I'd be interested in any URLs you can provide. I searched extensively.

DevelopmentSeed.org is an exception. What they do is remarkable.

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David Arts
March 20, 2008

Great comparison, although I wish you could update it. I just installed both for two different sites because I am finding it difficult to see which one will suit better my interests. SEO is important for me, so I might choose Drupal. Thanks for the very extensive review. smilies/smiley.gif

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Richard Ireland
March 26, 2008

I've been using Drupal for a while, but decided to take a look at Joomla today. One thing that struck me immediatley is that Joomla seems to be much better at wysiwyg editting. Am I right in this, or have I just overlooked the correct Drupal extension to make this easy?

In particular the ability to edit a page and insert images, and even layers directly into the text. The ability to insert images by uploading them from the local PC without first uploading them to an assets area seems better in Joomla.

To me this looks like a big plus point for Joomla and I'm thinking of changing over. I need to be able to focus on creating the websites for various departments/subsidiaries/brands in my company, and leave the content creation and maintenance - including images - upto the marketting departments.

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Dannahlea2001
March 30, 2008

I need helping deciding between Joomla and Drupal for a new website. I have built one site with Joomla (http://www.greengoldrush.org) and have never used Drupal. Joomla was fairly easy to figure out (but I couldn't extensions that didn't work immediately upon install).

The new website needs the ability for a user (anyone) to create an account, complete a form, make a payment, and then have the contents of the form displayed on the site until a specified expiration date. I have never done anything like this and have no idea how to do it. I'll have to learn, but I need some advice so I start in the right direction. Is it better to do this with Joomla or Drupal?

Thanks...

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Drupal Lover
March 31, 2008

Another Great Drupal site is http://www.coders2020.com on 5.x

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Bonnie L. Nadri
April 01, 2008

Great article, but I would balk slightly at the 'hard to find developers' statement as well as the theme, tax, and currency comments.

Feel free to hit our portfolio for some excellent examples of both development and themes, and note as well that some of the major players in the open source arena as well as the commercial one are very visible and apparently, quite happy with Drupal:

Unbuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/
The Lifetime Channel - http://www.mylifetime.com/
The Onion - http://www.theonion.com/
Us Magazine - http://usmagazine.com/
Amnesty International - http://www.amnesty.org/
Sony BMG Musicbox - http://musicbox.sonybmg.com/
MTV UK - http://www.mtv.co.uk/
DC Comic's "Zuda Comics" - http://zudacomics.com
43 Folders - http://www.43folders.com/
Spread FireFox - http://www.spreadfirefox.com/

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Duncan Babbage
April 01, 2008

I have been directed here by someone who thought this was useful. Given however that Joomla 1.5 is out, and that Drupal 6 is out, I agree with the suggestion above that it'd be great to have this updated... Any chance?

steve
Steve Burge
April 01, 2008

Given the number of people asking for it - I'll see if I can update this in the next couple of weeks smilies/smiley.gif

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Graham
April 02, 2008

I look forward to the updated review! Great info already - thanks.

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Laura Dg
April 07, 2008

Great comparison!! I have been looking for a compraison such as this one for a while. For me it is important that it is SSL compatible. I did not know Joomla was not. I wonder if the latest version is.

GreatGatsby
Jason Boyette
April 11, 2008

I too, would like an updated comparison.

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old ecard guy
April 13, 2008

One more kind request for an update - Great work, thank you.

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SSL Compatible
April 30, 2008

SSL is handled by the webserver. Joomla doesn't do anything to break that.

Your article in incorrect.

steve
Steve Burge
April 30, 2008

Unfortunately if you test Joomla 1.0 behind an SSL you'll find quite a few bugs and issues.

Do a quick Google for "Joomla SSL" and you'll find a lot of these bugs, plus a hack to try and solve them:
http://www.netshinesoftware.com/security/using-an-ssl-certificate-with-your-joomla-website.html

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Carl Codling
May 01, 2008

I'll be checking back for that update too. smilies/smiley.gif

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Dean Pitot
May 05, 2008

Hi. My girlfriend is wanting to launch an acommodation and activity site which would have a search and database component and would allow each establishment that listed to login and edit their details. We are technologically impaired and have had quotes ranging from $4000(Joomla) to $12000. What I would like to know is how do I determine which is the better option. If there is anyone that has some advice please let me know. Many thanks

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Sylvaticus
May 17, 2008

Congratulations.. there are parts I do not agree*, but one of the best comparation between Drupal and Joomla I saw on the net.

* about document management.. with the revision sytem built in Drupal, possibilities of personalisation are infinite!

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Computer Jobs Vietnam
May 22, 2008

drupal has release 6.2 with many new features. I have moved some websites of mine from Joomla to Drupal.

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reavellworld developer
May 30, 2008

i fail to understand why you would want to choose drupal over joomla. the community support is so much greater with joomla. that's a fact. i've developed numerous sites with joomla. yes, there are security issues with joomla. just pay attention and you will patch them when needed. this site seems a little skewed in favor of a lowly supported cms. ("lowly supported" means more development time and less billable hours.) anyone who has worked with oscommerce will understand what i'm saying. we need a large community of talented working programmers who understand the value of giving back to the project in order for it to be practcal. i just don't see this happening with drupal. give me a compelling reason to believe otherwise and i will welcome it happily. so far, i don't see it.

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Gozzie
June 02, 2008

Drupal's extendibility and add-on support is kind of neutralized for the fact that every new version is incompatible with what's already out as 3rd party add-ons such as themes and modules. Joomla is superior there.

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Randie
June 18, 2008

Thanks for this excellent comparison. Was wondering if/when you plan to update it for Drupal 6 and Joomla 1.5?

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Joep
July 05, 2008

Due to the simplistic access control in Joomla, Drupal is your choice if you want to chose a content management system for an intranet.

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Jonathan Hunt
July 15, 2008

First, thanks for the useful comparison, though I'm looking forward to the update.

@reavellworld
I can't speak to the community support in Joomla, but as a Drupal developer I have been very impressed with the strength of the community around Drupal. I just don't understand how you could possibly describe Drupal as 'lowly supported'. Drupal core had over 1,800 contributors last release, and http://drupal.org has over 200,000 users. There are active forums, IRC, screencasts, etc. Lots of Drupal books around now. The last major Drupal conference had over 800 attendees - http://boston2008.drupalcon.org/

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Arafat
July 23, 2008

Yes really nice comparison where as I still find out multi-level content category to be created and drupal really sounds to support this smilies/smiley.gif

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Prakash Gautam
July 28, 2008

What about some comments on a commercial CMS like (http://expressionengine.com)?

Thanks,

- Prakash

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informationalism
July 31, 2008

Nice comparison. Like the table format. We were looking at comparing Drupal, Joomla & Wordpress . our main concerns were (1) multilingual capabilities (also called internationalization or i18n); (2) end-user usability; and (3) developer usability.

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Quang
August 14, 2008

I am planning to run my website and looking for an appropriate CMS system. It's very impressive comparison table. I'm thinking of Drupal now :-)

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Bernard
August 14, 2008

Thanks for this great comparison - always something people are looking for. It's really hard to choose a new CMS system because there are a couple of good ones out there, and once you have chosen one you are pretty committed to it.

One thing about your comparisson: in the section on SEF URL's you do not mention sh404sef under Joomla. This is probably the most commonly use SEF URL extension?

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Yep
August 21, 2008

Great table data, too bad is old, two years! All internet material should be dated.

steve
Steve Burge
August 21, 2008

December 5th, 2006 according to the top-left of the article smilies/wink.gif

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scott f
August 24, 2008

Thanks for the excellent comparison between the two. I was always confused between the two and now I will bookmark this page and keep a good reference.

Thanks

Hummerbie
Herbert-Jan van Dinther
August 29, 2008

Hi Steve, This artile is now featured on http://www.smashingmagazine.co...-reviewed/ so prepare yourself for some more traffic :-).
But yes, an update with a comparison with Joomla 1.5 would be nice to see since some issues like SEF URLs are intregrated and the OpenSEF component is replaced by sh404SEF for better perfomance.
Drupal is also on version 6.4 with some improvements

steve
Steve Burge
August 30, 2008

Thanks for the heads-up Hummerbie. Not a huge bump in traffic but several hundred new visitors yesterday at least.

Update coming ASAP.

Ansiklopedi
Ulas ALKAN
August 30, 2008

i have tried both one drupal and joomla (1.0x and 1.5.x) but my personal experience is J! rocks because

* it's easy to use
* has more extensions
* joomla has a great backward compatibility. joomla 1.0.x extensions can work on joomla 1.5 but drupal does not this feature

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vampire_janus
September 02, 2008

great comparison! joomla and drupal can certainly use this to improve their softwares

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Frodo
September 04, 2008

Just come from Smashing Magazine and like your review but if you get time this could be even more valuable if you update it.

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Expertsforge
September 05, 2008

That is a very good comparison.. Joomla has a lot of themes.. but Dupal doesnt.

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YogaDownload
September 05, 2008

I found some other great sites that offer CMS compaisons:

Comparison of Joomla and Drupal current versions (Joomla 1.5.3 vs. Drupal 6.2)
http://paranoid-engineering.bl...ustom.html

Excellent comprehensive comparison tool for just about any CMS system out there:
http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix

I found these while looking for a good current comparison of Joomla & Drupal and thought you folks might appreciate them!

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Fadishei
September 06, 2008

I chose Drupal ove Joomla because of Drupal's verbosity. Joomla is almost mute in reporting errors and warnings!

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whatnwhen
September 12, 2008

very good article.....I was hanging between using drupal and joomla.....I will try both to see what works best for me......

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bazet
September 18, 2008

I'm more leaning to Drupal, but I'm CakePHP developer.

In my country ( Malaysia ), Joomla already powered most of the popular news sites, goverment sites but there's severe lack of Joomla Developer around here. Using 3rd party plugins is common too.

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GregH
September 22, 2008

This really needs updating. Many of the "crosses" against Drupal are not there any more.

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dhomi
October 05, 2008

thank u
Thanks for the heads-up Hummerbie. Not a huge bump in traffic but several hundred new visitors yesterday at least.

Update coming ASAP.



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Paul Divers
October 07, 2008

Thanks for doing this. It is very helpful because the comparison is non-partisan.
I have been researching Drupal and think it has the edge where it counts. For my needs that is.
Good Work.

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Stefann
October 14, 2008

We decide to use Drupal: http://www.deutsch-werden.de. Its is hard to learn but powerful.

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Dale
October 19, 2008

I chose Joomla for the simple fact that aesthetically it is far superior to drupal. There are so many more interesting themes to choose from in Joomla and lets face it, aesthetics play a huge role when it comes to websites nowdays.

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Amanda
October 20, 2008

Since when you type "drupal vs joomla" this post comes up first, I urge you to update it for Joomla 1.5. Specifically, the fact that SEO is now great with 1.5 -- though you give SEO for 1.5 and "X." Please consider changing that.

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Otabek
November 06, 2008

Thanks, good table for developer who has a choice between Joomla and Drupal. There are many reviews, it'll be valuble if you rebuild this table.

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El Puño
November 27, 2008

It would be interessting to se a new comparison for the new version joomla 1.5x and Drupal 6.x.


King regards / med venlig hilsen

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Matt Jabs
December 02, 2008

I agree with El Puno.

?? My comment is too short? What's up with that?

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MattCummings
December 04, 2008

Hi all,

I'm new to both Joomla and Drupal. As part of my university course I have compare the two and come up with an answer on which one is better for creating a site that will attract a large amount of traffic and also generate between $50 and $1000 per month.

Any suggestions?

I have been looking at SEO, Google adwords wtc.

Advice would be greatly received!

Thanks...

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Chester Bullock
December 09, 2008

Is there any way you could do an update of this comparison? A lot has changed since this was done. I would love to see a new comparison...

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JL
January 09, 2009

I second.


Chester Bullock wrote:

Is there any way you could do an update of this comparison? A lot has changed since this was done. I would love to see a new comparison...

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Waffa
January 12, 2009

I think the comparison should be Joomla 1.5 (who would want to use 1.1 anyway) and between drupal latest 5.x AND 6.x. Why we still need 5.x ? Because most sites will still use 5.x and software like vbdrupal seems not go with 6.x soon. Also many say 6.x has not enough great features for upgrade - i think there is

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manuelc
January 13, 2009

yes please, update this great comparison.

thank you

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dario the boring
January 15, 2009

UPDATE SPARTAAAAA!!!!

This is a enlightning article.

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Raul Reynoso
January 27, 2009

This is great information. Understanding the strengths and weaknesses of Joomla and Drupal is the only way people will select the right CMS for their needs. We at webologysolutions.com want to further this debate. We are conducting a survey of experienced Drupal and Joomla users.

Our goal is to quantify the tradeoffs involved in selecting a CMS. The survey will also let us incorporate the opinions of Joomla and Drupal users. We think this will make our analysis more concrete and convincing. If you are experienced with either Joomla or Drupal, please take our survey at: http://www.webologysolutions.c...urvey.html

If you would like to know more about the purpose of the survey please read our blog post at: http://www.webologysolutions.c...tices.html

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Mani
February 18, 2009

This is great piece of information.
Mainly this is very much useful for the people who are in dilemma to go for weather drupal or Joomla.
thank you so much.

steve
Steve Burge
February 18, 2009

Hi All

Just a heads-up ... as requested, I have updated this article for the new version of this site coming in about 2 weeks. It'll be posted here at this same URL.

Steve

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imran khan
March 14, 2009

Thanks for this great comparison - it is very helpful for chose a new CMS, people are looking for. It's really hard to choose a new CMS system because there are a couple of good ones out there, and once you have chosen one you are pretty committed to it.

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johnjames84
March 19, 2009

Is there any way you could do an update of this comparison? A lot has changed since this was done. I would love to see a new comparison...

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Snehal
March 25, 2009

Hi,

I am building a website like youTube, which would be a better choice: Joomla or Drupal for building this kind of a site?

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nicolas
April 14, 2009

Hello,

As I understand this article was supposed to be updated in february, but I don't see the differences...

Am I not reviewing the correct page ?

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Nick H
April 20, 2009

I have been a Joomla! 1.5 fan for a few years now. Unfortunately the forums on Joomla! have become censored. I posted a comment about a company that is a hosting business and provides free templates.

I posted my opinions about the methods the company in question uses as well as warned people about certain templates and issue that may come about. A moderator sends me a warning stating "This is not the place to settle a commercial disagreement for custom development or to be a 'wall of shame'. Any posts deemed to be of this nature will be removed. Settle your disputes in private please."

It seems now that if you say something bad about a commercial company you are reprimanded. I have noticed over the years that I have used Joomla! that is has become VERY commercialized and in my opinion the module and components are becoming less open source.

Now that it has come to the point of a user being "warned" because of commenting about the greediness of a company I believe it's time to pack my virtual bags and move to Drupal.

In regards to Joomla! functions there are more components being developed to integrate with mainstream systems (e.g. phpBB, WordPress, MediaWiki, etc). The two downfalls I see besides commercialism is the SEF feature and the UAC.

In all the years that Joomla! (1.0.x and 1.5.x) have been around, I am amazed that they have not provided an integrated solution to be able to assign permissions to usergroups. Every forum that I know of (phpBB, SMF, VB) all have the ability to create usergroups and assign permission to them. There is a free component for Joomla! but does not work well.

The main thing I use the CMS for on one of my sites is to easily create articles. My forums are SMF and the main "content repository" will be the MediaWiki software. I feel that for the large amount of content I plan on creating as well as the amount of cross-referencing I will be doing that the MediaWiki will work best.

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davidyxf
April 29, 2009

I am using commercial Joomla template now on http://www.beijingimpact.com.
I repect their team work, but i don't like their forum also. you can see the forum integrated in my web have no SEF function, you have to pay that!
If drupal have SEF forum mod, then I will turn to it.

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johnwu
May 02, 2009

take a look at Google Trend, guys.
No body like to use Drupal in this Earth at all.

Compare Drupal with Joomla is jsut like compare the chicken with Phoenix. Joomla is 100 thousands hot and better than drupal!

http://www.google.com/trends?q...all&sort=0

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Raul Reynoso
May 12, 2009

Results from Drupal v. Joomla Survey Available

We have completed a survey of aproximately 200 professional developers about the strengths and weaknesses of Joomla and Drupal.

We hope survey will add some needed objectivity and refocus the debate on which CMS is most appropriate for particular problems rather than which CMS is "the best." The survey covers a variety of topics including ease of use, extensibility, the quality of documentation, and more. We also hope these results will help people determine which CMS is best for their project

The survey results are available at: http://www.webologysolutions.c...onses.html

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Len Ocin
May 14, 2009

From a completely different prospective, I did a simple little test.
My motive for this is for those that want to learn a CMS (personally I would suggest learn them all, and include Wordpress which I came to love).
But let's say you have time for one and want to enter the job market.

So I went ahead and Googled "Joomla Jobs" and then "Drupal Jobs".
From this point of view, Joomla wins:
Results 1 - 10 of about 7,310,000 for joomla jobs
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,540,000 for drupal jobs

I know, I know, I'm a developer myself. This figures does not indicate which is better at all (I'm still on the fench). Just thought it's interesting.

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xsor
May 19, 2009

love joomla for superior templates

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o joyce
May 23, 2009

i agree, updateupdate

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frank68
May 31, 2009

What about Drupal 6?

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peter123
June 15, 2009

Don't bother to "Learn them all" Drupal is all you need, Drupaling is like enlightenment, once you understand, you can achieve anything.

A very high level of document management can be achieved in Drupal using the correct modules, yes it has to be built from scratch but that makes it more customizable, i created a document management system with Drupal using CCK, Views, Taxanomies, File field, etc.

Obvisouly Ubercart is way better than anything in Joomla for shopping sites.

Event Calendars ?????? The Calendar module for Views combined with the Date module and CCK creates very powerful calendaring Facilities with a year, month, week, day view and also the ability to promote events to front page, blocks, panels, views and allows lists of events, upcoming events, past events, event archive, with the ability to have an image or banner associated with each event (imagefield module) which can be automatically re-sized (imagecache module) and automatically displayed in a specific place, (panels or contemplate modules), obviously by default people can comment on events and Vote on them (5 star module) and even sign up to events and notify event managers (signup module) and then of course events can be categorized or tagged with the taxonomy module.

So to say Drupals calendaring facilities are "Far behind Joomla" is simply ridiculous.

With regard to themes there are several good commercial developers for Drupal now and there are a lot of good free themes for drupal now.
Maybe not as many good commercial themes as Joomla, but HEY there must be a reason why Joomla is so popular.... I cant see any other.

And what about the huge array of things that Drupal can do the Joomla Cant, like be customized.. Hahaha.. And single sign on and multi site installs and all the educational modules and stuff.

Drupal is also pretty good for Vitual Learning type stuff and project management, Content posting via email, twitter, facebook. and now SMS mosules.

This page should be archived and replaced by an all new update version.

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Joomla Passion
July 03, 2009

I am using Joomla for more than one year. SEO aspect of joomla is very good as far as my results are concerned. We need to put efforts in seo activities. Just out of box with sef url ebabled in admin is more than enough for onpage optimization. When selecting templates we need to be more careful as to how to choose the right SEO template like bolt from alledia which is most optimized. But it is fixed width. We need to modify as to our requirement.
About Drupal I'm not much experienced. So I cannot comment on that. I'm learning drupal. This is my fourth or 5th attempt to learn drupal. I giveaway in the half as it is not simple as joomla.

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Josh
July 08, 2009

An update to this would be appreciated.

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KrewZen
July 11, 2009

wow... even outdated this article and the comments are useful and mostly still relevant! Thanks Steve for sharing it. Most helpful.

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Vincent Yang
July 12, 2009

I've translated this post into Chinese, please have a look at http://www.onedust.com/archives/635
thanks.

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Blogging
August 04, 2009

Thank you for this comparison. It was very helpful.
blogging

kaizagency
Zazel Baltao
August 06, 2009

I have been using Joomla for a few years and am only just getting into Drupal. My opinion is that Joomla is more user friendly and easier to learn for new developers like myself - I can write html/CSS but not much else.

Also Joomla has a lot more extensions available (although many them are commercial, but often good developer purchase options available).

I think with Joomla it is a lot easier/faster to create nice looking websites and after all, in this industry time is money. I'm not really interested in being a s##t hot developer, I just like to create good websites that meet my clients needs. Choosing an option that allows me to create a ?2000 website in a few hours is a great thing so I love Joomla and SOBI!!!

I think Drupal seems more un restrictive therefore would be great for more complex/advanced projects. I still have a lot to learn about Drupal and am looking forward to doing so as I am sure I will use it for my larger more bespoke projects.

The information here was great but it would be VERY USEFUL if this table was updated please smilies/smiley.gif

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Owen McNamara
August 11, 2009

Very good review. The table is very clear. It would be great to see an update comparing the latest versions of Joomla and Drupal. But then again each will continue to improve and each definitely has its strengths. To contribute to this discussion as part of my own companyies review process of the two main open source CMS's I did a comparison as well which I hope continues the great discussion around these two great CMS's. It can be found on my adfree blog at http://owenmcnamara.com/2009/0...nd-joomla/

Hope it helps others as much as this article helped me.

Thanks

owen

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neeshu
August 16, 2009

joomla sucks it is as simple as that you will never know when you are hit by an error which you will never be able to solve no built in sef no built in comment system its useless and worthless

check my site and the reason why i am crying is because I use joomla
www.neeshu.com

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Ernie Cordell
August 18, 2009

Thanks for the comparison. As a developer, I needed a features summary and had not planned to look at the products for my own application. I was bothered that I was unable to advise anyone else, especially about OpenSource products.

The light you shed changes the picture for me in many different ways.

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Jenny
August 19, 2009

thank you so so much! i thought for our users, joomla would be friendlier and easier in the long-run after our layout and coding are set up. i think i will go with drupal because with its strong lightweight coding and unlimited categories.

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South Florida Movers
August 25, 2009

the Joomla SEO template looks really good. Is it proven effective with SEO? My website has been really tough to optimize so I might want to give this a try.

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Usman
August 27, 2009

I like Drupal better. I have never been able to understand Joomla. Its impossible to find your required extensions.
Drupal is easy to understand and I can do almost anything using Drupal.

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dibrg
August 30, 2009

smilies/grin.gif joomla is too complicated!!

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Kuka
August 31, 2009

I guess it would more more fair if version numbers are shown.
Both Drupal and Joomla has evolved a LOT !!!
Most if the crossed notes are out of date.
My sugestion: You should not take this comparison as your base to choose CMS unless it is updated according to the 2009 state.

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Harneet Singh
September 07, 2009

Hmm. I am experimenting with joomla 1.5 and I found it very difficult to customize templates.



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Drupal developers
September 08, 2009

Joomla and Drupal are two magnificent Open Source Content
Management System which provide the framework to develop
effortless with various ready to us modules and website in
short span of time.

Main differences are as under

1. Drupal use smarty template where as on the other hand Joomla dose not

2. Joomla uses plugin and modules whereas Drupl has module only

3. In drupal php code can be written directly whereas in Joomla you need to install plugin for php support

Thank for sharing
http://www.drupals-developers.com
http://www.drupal-web-developers.com

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Bozzy
September 25, 2009

I am working Joomla and I have also found difficult to customize.
Thanks for the comparrison.

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Hildiid
September 29, 2009

I am working with Joomla and it great stuff. I haven't used Drupal yet but after reading this article I will use Drupal for my next project.

Well done for good overview, thanks.

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MLAV
October 04, 2009

I have been using Joomla for about a year now and I am having trouble with it working on IE.
My site works fine on firefox and safari
Is drupal better with this?

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Andrew Brown
October 05, 2009

I have just been getting into Drupal and Joomla and I must say that Joomla wins hands down for usability so far. Specially with JForms which I have not found anything remotely close for Drupal. Just wish there was something that enabled you to edit data that went into the database. Still I am only new at this.

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leke1975
October 05, 2009

This article was written in 2006. I wonder if these points are still relevant today?

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pro joomla
October 20, 2009

After reading this article i think im going to try drupal. Ive been using joomla for about 3 years but i wish to further my skills i have made many websites using joomla such as http://projoomla.info thats all well and good but i think i am in need of trying something new. Great article thanks

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Mekan
October 21, 2009

Choosing between them is such as mess. If these two teams (drupal & Joomla) actually worked on the same platform. We would have been so much ahead.
Such a f. waste

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joomlauser
October 22, 2009

Joomla was working fine intially !!! But it has Severe Vulnerabilities even the Super Admin account gets compromised and your site gets into hackers control within seconds!!!!!!! To add more to this Joomla Forum and other "so called" helpful links are extremely unhelpful!!! The Leadership Team of Joomla consists of Immature, Inexperienced Jerks like Brad Baker and all. All they do is write mean, abusive words, and blame you for Joomla Vulnerability!!!! USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! They say update has resolved this issue, but who knows what trouble it has in store!!!!

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hanum
October 23, 2009

each of that CMS has benefit and weakness. But I prefer joomla to build web to drupal. Good comparison review. Nice posting. Thank?s

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dissertation writing
October 24, 2009

"Joomla is easier. Joomla has a great user interface." From its competitor I hear, "Drupal is more flexible and it has tagging."
When caching is disabled Joomla can serve 19 pages per second, while Drupal can serve 13 pages per second. Hence, Joomla is 44% faster than Drupal.
However, when caching is enabled Joomla can serve 21 pages per second, while Drupal can serve 67 pages per second. Here, Drupal is 319% faster than Joomla.

In other words, Joomla's cache system improves performance by 12%, while Drupal's cache system improves performance by 508%.

It is important to note that Drupal can only serve cached pages to anonymous visitors (users that have not logged on). Once users have logged on, caching is disabled for them since the pages are personalized in various ways. Hence, in practice, Drupal might not be 319% faster than Joomla; it depends on the ratio of anonymous visitors versus authenticated visitors, how often your site's page cache is flushed, and the hit-rate of your Drupal page cache.

Lastly, when serving gzip-compressed pages Drupal becomes slightly faster compared to having to serve non-compressed pages. Joomla, on the other hand, becomes a little bit slower. The reason is that Drupal's page cache stores its content directly in a compressed state; it has to uncompress the page when the client does not support gzip-compression, but can serve a page directly from the page cache when the client does support gzip-compression.
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trp
October 27, 2009

Can someone do the new comparison?

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Shadow25
October 27, 2009

I have often heared that drupal is hard to use. Well, mine experience is that Joomla is hard and Drupal is easy - at least for my logic. I have tried Joomla several times and every time there is too much learning. But when I first time tried Drupal, I got allmost everything working with first attempt - Without any tutorial! So I just dont understand, how is Joomla easy and Drupal hard. To me it is vice versa.

I would give Joomla only one point - for looking nice and shiny.

NB! Sorry for my bad english. smilies/smiley.gif

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KaptainKyle
November 04, 2009

Drupal does have steep learning curve even if you're proficient at writing PHP code. It's just a different way to think about relationships. In the end it is well worth it though.

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Flv Player
November 20, 2009

Joomla! yes... joomla is a wonderful CMS which is getting famous by every passing day. Building a website through joomla involves less time. Within the shortest span of time, we can build a wonderful website with excellent content management system.

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tomBelgium
December 05, 2009

which of the two offers multiple languages? My favorit is Drupal so far, but would like to now if it can easily handle multiple languages (on pages, menus etc.), or is it all up to the developer to implement it?

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mikez
December 17, 2009

you forget to talk of security of drupal compare to joomla
what is it ?

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Custom Essay
December 26, 2009

Hi,
Nice work, thanks for such information, which will help beginners in future.

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http://www.fundootemplates.com
December 29, 2009

I was going to write a similar blog concerning this topic, you beat me to it. You did a nice job! Thanks and well add your rss to come categories on our blogs. Thanks so much, Jon B.
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Mystic
January 09, 2010

Thanks for the comparison. I will use it in the future when building client websites. There is never 1 solution that fits everyone. My personal website was created in Drupal.

I've tried both and the learning curve is basically the same for me. I've decided to go with Drupal because of one simple reason.

The core email work's with exchange 2007. I run my own Exchange server and after hours, days of searching for a solution, I've come to the conclusion that it just doesn't work. I'm not interested in the hacks that have been published, I want the core function to work.

I had the same configuring issue with Drupal, however I was able to fix it with little to no effort.

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ben lam
January 15, 2010

I used both drupal 6.15 and joomla 1.5 myself.

I am very impressed with both of them, hey, they are both the top 2 php open source, you can't be wrong to go for either one of them.

However, if it's really comparing the difference. One major thing I notice is the flexibility. Yes, drupal is very flexible, but it could be good and bad, the downside is you have to do a lot of customisation (theme) work yourself. While for joomla, a lot of module / plugin has been customised nicely in a standard way where you can just install and go.

For me, if I want to build a quick web for low budget client who is not that fussy / demanding. Joomla is a good choice.

On the other hand, if you have the resource and patience to customise the web. Drupal certainly has a lot you can play with.

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Luigidelgado
January 22, 2010

Steve:

Can you place the SW versions in the header? Just to make clear if the comparison has been updated to this day (January 21, 2010) as comments come here since 2006!!
GREAT comparison as this two are the best ones...
Thanks!

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Shaukat
February 05, 2010

I have heard a lot about Joomla and it is really some great stuff. However, I haven't used Drupal yet.

Good overview, thanks for the info.

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jaison
February 06, 2010

iam just starting with drupal.let me try then i will give ma opinion.thanks for the information.

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