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Drupal's Founder Tries to Emulate Red Hat
Written by Steve Burge   
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Acquia DrupalCan I pat myself on the back? 18 months ago, I asked if Drupal or Joomla could produce a company like Red Hat.


It turns out that Drupal's founder Dries Buytaert wants to do just that. At the beginning of this year, his company Acquia received $7 million in venture capital funding.


Where has that money gone? Over at Information Week, Acquia marketing VP explains


  • What's the plan? Package Drupal, test it, do additional security reviews of it and deliver it.
  • How do they make money? Subscriptions to the Acquia Network. That provides tech support, network services -- which includes things like spam blocking, automatic updates, uptime monitoring, and system tracking. They also provide a single maintenance dashboard to manage all of a company's Drupal installations.
  • Do any big companies use it? Flex.org by Adobe is the only one they gave away.

In a blog post later this week I'm going to talk about some companies that don't quite have $7 million in their back pocket, but are trying to provide managed Joomla install packages
 

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#1 Brian Teeman 2008-09-22 09:24
For me this is why its always been so important that the copyright of Joomla was not held by one single person or company. It was probably the number one reason that Joomla came into existance.
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#2 Cory Webb 2008-09-22 11:37
Hi Brian... I'm having a hard time following your comment. Are you saying Acquia is a bad thing? If so, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.
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#3 Brian Teeman 2008-09-22 11:49
@cory lets put it this way. How would you be feeling right now if you had contributed to drupal in the same way that you contribute to joomla.
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#4 Steve Burge 2008-09-22 11:54
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How would you be feeling right now if you had contributed to drupal in the same way that you contribute to joomla.


I think thats a difficult question. The article distinguishes between organic and inorganic FOSS. I think there's also a top-down and bottom-up distinction.

Top-down: Drupal has always been a one-man kingdom, however benevolently governed.
Bottom-up: Joomla, for all its flaws, is controlled and owned by a much wider, more democratic group.
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#5 Rob Clayburn 2008-09-22 12:50
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How would you be feeling right now if you had contributed to drupal in the same way that you contribute to joomla.


I read it that they aren't selling Drupal on its own, they are selling a value added service around Drupal. Testing, installation, implementation etc. The spam management stuff isn't Drupal specific but from Mollom for which there are pro and free versions of the service (great service btw well worth checking out)
Surely most of us who make a living from Joomla are doing exactly the same, but on a much smaller level?
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#6 Brian Teeman 2008-09-22 13:37
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Surely most of us who make a living from Joomla are doing exactly the same, but on a much smaller level?


There is a big difference. In the Joomla world everyone competes on a fairly even standing. However if there was an "official" commercial arm everything changes.

The relationship between Fedora and Red Hat was until recently oft cited as an example of where free and commercial could work together unnder one hat :-) but the recent security debacle has shown that the "freedom" of Fedora has been restricted by the commercial interests of Red Hat. See [url:error]
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#7 Cory Webb 2008-09-22 16:22
@Brian... I think you make good points, and I cannot completely disagree with you. I see a lot of good things about Acquia, though. I guess I'm on the fence on this one.
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#8 Brian Teeman 2008-09-22 16:32
I used to believe that the "large companies" would never touch an Open Source product unless they could "purchase" support etc directly from the authors. However in the last few months I've personaly worked with three Fortune 500 companies who are happy to use Joomla and I'm sure other people have as well, so I've changed my opinion on that.
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#9 Rob Clayburn 2008-09-22 16:38
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In the Joomla world everyone competes on a fairly even standing.

No one ever competes on an even footing, that's life 8). Joomlatools are going to get better clients, press coverage etc than other shops because frankly they have some amazing talent who have worked really hard over the years for the Joomla project. Are you going to argue that they shouldn't offer their knowledge as a professional service because they did have/have/had a role in Joomla's core? As a business of course they are going to use their experience as a major selling point, and to me Acquia has every right in doing the same.

Large scale businesses are going to do due diligence and in doing so can you not emphasise with them when they most likely choose a qualified world recognised service provider? If this wasn't the case I'm sure all IT departments would be running Macs by now :P

I'm betting that Acquia will do great things for Drupal in moving it's brand perception into new markets (large businesses) something that frankly, I feel, Joomla is going to struggle to do (even with a better core (imho) than Drupals. I'm positive that this change will reap rewards for the entire Drupal project, and for all those providing services within Drupal.

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However if there was an "official" commercial arm everything changes.
Hmm I don't see anywhere on the Acquia site or the Drupal association site where it says Acquia are the official commercial arm of Drupal. All I found was the Acquia FAQ section (http://acquia.com/about-us/faq) which states the inverse.

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See itmanagement.earthweb.c...Crisis.htm

I read the article but fail to understand the point you are trying to make. I'm not a fedora/red hat user. Are you suggesting that Acquia would be in a position to jeopardise the security of Drupal for their own personal gain? I can't see the profit in them doing this, but perhaps I'm too naive:-)
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#10 Rob Clayburn 2008-09-22 16:41
ps any way to refresh the thread apart from adding gobldygook to the end of the url? the page caching seems to be rather brutal
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